The thin veil of "civilised" society

[Timelord]

As usual the discussion is stretched in all different directions to suit totally different possible scenarios!! Keeping Law and order over a large population is not the same as the possible threat from a military force to oneself or local area. During SHTF is very different to PSHTF. A die off from one event can affect the population in ratio to the military very differently from a general die off from an alternative event.
What is the point in any discussion of subjects like this if no clear scenario definitions are given. As said before, posters end up arguing on line from different angles when in fact for the scenario in their own heads, their response is quite reasonable. In reality the scenarios in their heads are completely different!
This does not further any learning from the forum and is a waste of readers time and is misleading for less informed preppers. I do believe it is one of the reasons why some intelligent preppers retreat from the forums after a while, while others continue to trot the same stuff out over and over again.