No water scenario

[Binnie]

With the greatest of respect, that is absolute quackery. It is based on fallacious science.

Now - I'm just not entirely sure who you're accusing of being a quack and fallacious, so maybe you could just back off a tad till we have that clear. Just by the way, it can hardly be respectful, no matter how great your emphasis upon it, to make such an accusation of anyone!

Either way, don't shoot the messenger. Back in Post 71, I said I'd read it - I was reporting it (within the context), not preaching it!

This is where you have to use the noodle though.

ok distilling water removes everything that isnt water. if we talk about seawater, it's been boiled for hours to evaporate a lot of water to make it "pure"

why cant you just add a little bit of the boiled seawater to provide you with essential salts and minerals????

i wouldnt do it with water i thought was contaminated though,


Thinking outside of the box might just save your life!

[Scythe13]

This is where you have to use the noodle though.

ok distilling water removes everything that isnt water. if we talk about seawater, it's been boiled for hours to evaporate a lot of water to make it "pure"

why cant you just add a little bit of the boiled seawater to provide you with essential salts and minerals????

i wouldnt do it with water i thought was contaminated though,


Thinking outside of the box might just save your life!

Make a cup of tea or coffee. Anyone shouting about how they are diuretics can go back and check the research. Water is a hefty diuretic and is proved by drinking 8 cups of water a day. You pee out more water than you've drank. Your body gets into the systematic idea that you have an abundance of water, and so you don't need to conserve your bodies natural liquid stores. If you drink 1.5 litres of water in a desert or 4 litres, you'll dehydrate on the 4 litres faster. How weird is that? I'd rather have the 4 litres with me, but for consumption, a little bit, regularly, is the right way to go. Sorry, I've digressed....back to tea and coffee. Tea and coffee are made with water, and the amount of water consumed for an average cup, when taken into account the diuretic effect of tea or coffee, is actually more than enough to produce a positive water intake. However, 8-10 cups will have the same effect of drinking an excess.....your body stops storing water as it doesn't believe it needs to hold any more due to the regular supply.

When I was in the Cook Islands, I was the only person, out of 14, that didn't need rehydration salts, in a 5 week period. Oddly, I never drank water when I was told to, and just went on instincts. Speaking of which, coconut milk is ideal for rehydrating your body. It's definitely worth storing some of that up!!!

I've digressed again.....managing to derail my own replies haha.

Back to tea and coffee. if you're scared of the effects of "pure water" damaging your body, use it in cordial, tea, coffee, with lime juice or lemons squeezed in. Add some bread and make super low quality beer (how beer was first found apparently, a chunk of fermented bread left in water).

There are so many ways you can 'unpurify' water, that if you can't think of any, you have some serious issues!

[Jonas]

A "cup" = 8 oz. 8 cups = 64 oz or 2 quarts or 1/2 gallon. For an active person in a hot climate, or even in a moderate climate in the summer with temperatures in the 80F range, that is not enough water intake to avoid dehydration.

Coconut milk is a strong laxative. Diarrhea causes dehydration. The major cause of death by dysentery (a disease that causes uncontrolled diarrhea) is dehydration and electrolyte imbalance. Drinking too much coconut milk will cause diarrhea. There are documented cases of people marooned on Pacific islands dying of dehydration in situations where an unlimited supply of coconut milk was their only available potable liquid.

I've treated many heat exhaustion and heat stroke victims, usually with 500ml Lactated Ringers, IV. They all lived (though one spent considerable time in the hospital).

Scythe13, people following your anecdotal advice on water intake and coconut milk have a fair chance of killing themselves.

[bigpaul]

i read somewhere that you need 2 litres(just under half a gallon for our American cousins) MINIMUM per person per day, thats just for drinking, not including for cooking or washing, and that was for someone who didnt move around too much and wasnt doing any heavy manual labour.

[Jonas]

i read somewhere that you need 2 litres(just under half a gallon for our American cousins) MINIMUM per person per day, thats just for drinking, not including for cooking or washing, and that was for someone who didnt move around too much and wasnt doing any heavy manual labour.

1/2 gallon or 2 liters of water in 80F or 26C is barely enough for an adult doing nothing but sitting in the shade watching the grass grow. If you're gardening, mowing the lawn, cutting trees, riding your bicycle or playing baseball, you need about 1/2 quart or 1/2 liter of water per hour.

Alcohol is a dehydrating agent, so sipping an ice-cold high-ball or gin and tonic will work against you as well.

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I had to dig through my files to find this - dates back to my Coast Guard days, but here's the recipe for a homemade rehydration drink, much less expensive than the name brand stuff!

Homemade Rehydration Drink

[i]The envelopes with non Kool-Aid drink mixes (like Wylers) are usually more like Gatorade. Kool-Aid seems to have its own distinct flavor.

1 (1/4 ounce) envelope unsweetened flavored drink mix (enough for 2 quarts)
1/2 teaspoon table salt (sodium chloride)
1/4 teaspoon salt substitute (potassium chloride; eg. Morton Salt Substitute)
1/4 cup sugar
1/4 cup plus 2 tbs. corn syrup or honey
2 tbs. lemon juice
water, to make 2 quarts

8 servings
3 minutes prep

Place all ingredients in a large pitcher or jug and stir or shake until well mixed.
Chill and keep refrigerated until used.

Note: Adjust sweetness to taste by adding (or in rare cases reducing) a little sugar since drink mixes can vary.

[Tartar Horde]

We have a 27 mile long fresh water loch a couple of hundred yards away, plenty of water in that

Loch Awe???? some very nice Pike in there Highlander

[Highlander]

We have a 27 mile long fresh water loch a couple of hundred yards away, plenty of water in that

Loch Awe???? some very nice Pike in there Highlander

Loch Awe is about two hours drive south of us,...and our loch is better...

[Scythe13]

[bigpaul]

i read somewhere that you need 2 litres(just under half a gallon for our American cousins) MINIMUM per person per day, thats just for drinking, not including for cooking or washing, and that was for someone who didnt move around too much and wasnt doing any heavy manual labour.

1/2 gallon or 2 liters of water in 80F or 26C is barely enough for an adult doing nothing but sitting in the shade watching the grass grow. If you're gardening, mowing the lawn, cutting trees, riding your bicycle or playing baseball, you need about 1/2 quart or 1/2 liter of water per hour.

YES, thats why i said "for someone who ISNT moving around much" DUH!!

[Scythe13]

i read somewhere that you need 2 litres(just under half a gallon for our American cousins) MINIMUM per person per day, thats just for drinking, not including for cooking or washing, and that was for someone who didnt move around too much and wasnt doing any heavy manual labour.

1/2 gallon or 2 liters of water in 80F or 26C is barely enough for an adult doing nothing but sitting in the shade watching the grass grow. If you're gardening, mowing the lawn, cutting trees, riding your bicycle or playing baseball, you need about 1/2 quart or 1/2 liter of water per hour.

YES, thats why i said "for someone who ISNT moving around much" DUH!!

He plans on mowing the lawn for an hour or more! Damn he's got a big lawn....I'm kidding.